内科病咨询 請幫忙解決胃下垂問題。

[zafirov]

Hello. First, sorry for using Google Translate. I'm 28 years old and from Bulgaria. I suffer from gastroptosis, a condition for which there is currently no Western medical treatment. Please help me, I'm desperate. I saw a folk remedy for gastroptosis on this forum (20g Atractylodes macrocephala, 6g Radishes, 12g Poria, 10g Radish Seed, 10g Chenpi, 10g Pinellia, 10g Chuanxiong Pi, 10g Sophora flavescens, 10g Betel nut, 10g Pinellia, 10g Chuanxiong Pi, 10g Sophora flavescens, 10g Betel nut, 10g Pinellia, 10g Chuanxiong Pi, 10g Sophora flavescens, 10g Betel nut, and 10g Pinellia). 我買了這些顆粒狀的草藥。So far, my symptoms have not improved.

Please help me. I have no one here to talk to. I can pay out of my own pocket if necessary, no problem. I'm desperate and am considering flying to China for treatment.

Thank you.

I have a loss of appetite, difficulty with bowel movements, difficulty gaining weight, insomnia, excessive sweating, irritability, tinnitus, general weakness, and low energy.

 

[六经八纲]

When was those symptoms happened, can you send a photo of your palm and back of your palm.

 

[六经八纲]

In tem field the famous doctor ≠ widom doctor, so it will be same chance even if you fly to china.

 

[aldrich222]

推荐阅读 胃缓 ( 胃下垂) 中医临床诊疗指南 世界中医药学会联合会
Guidelines of Clinical Diagnosis and Treatment of Gastroptosis in Chinese Medicine

Guidelines of Clinical Diagnosis and Treatment of Gastroptosis in Chinese Medicine - CNKI

看不懂中文用chatgpt之类的ai翻译即可，一般而言大多数情况都是用补中益气汤，补中益气汤没效果的要考虑加味

 

[欧洲西红柿]

代为保加利亚的患者 zafirov 翻译：
你好。首先，抱歉使用谷歌翻译。我28岁，来自保加利亚。我患有胃下垂，这是一种目前没有西医治疗的方法。请帮助我，我很绝望。我在这个论坛上看到了一种治疗胃下垂的民间偏方（20克白术，6克萝卜，12克茯苓，10克萝卜种子，10克陈皮，10克天南星，10克川芎皮，10克黄芩，10克槟榔，10克天南星，10克川芎皮，10克黄芩，10克槟榔，10克天南星，10克川芎皮，10克黄芩，10克槟榔，10克天南星，10克川芎皮，10克黄芩，10克槟榔，10克天南星，10克川芎皮，10克黄芩，10克槟榔，10克天南星，10克川芎皮，10克黄芩，10克槟榔）。我买了这些颗粒状的草药。到目前为止，我的症状没有改善。请帮助我。我在这里没有人可以倾诉。如果需要，我可以自掏腰包，没问题。我很绝望，考虑飞往中国接受治疗。谢谢。我有食欲不振、排便困难、体重增加困难、失眠、出汗过多、易怒、耳鸣、全身乏力和低能量。

 

[六经八纲]

有些情況是肝病引發的腎病. 進而導致這種情況.

 

[欧洲西红柿]

参考一下。

1. 核心药物（每日1剂，水煎分2次温服）
   • 黄芪30g（补气升阳）
   • 党参15g（健脾益气）
   • 白术12g（燥湿健脾）
   • 柴胡10g（疏肝解郁）
   • 陈皮6g（理气和胃）
   • 升麻6g（升举阳气）
   • 当归10g（养血活血）
   • 枳实10g（破气通便）
2. 症状加减
   • 失眠严重：加酸枣仁15g、夜交藤20g（养心安神）
   • 易怒耳鸣：加钩藤12g、石决明15g（平肝潜阳）
   • 出汗过多：加浮小麦30g、麻黄根10g（固表止汗）
   • 排便困难：加火麻仁15g（润肠通便）

 

[欧洲西红柿]

欧洲和我们有时差，我们上班，他们在睡觉中

 

[战地中医]

你好，我需要了解您的发病时间，您是否有不良的生活习惯，比如性生活过度，不吃早饭等等，目前看了肝肾都相对有一定的原因

 

[zafirov]

謝謝大家的解答。補充一下，我的胃下垂五年前就開始了。我努力工作，減了很多體重（當時我大約55公斤，身高180厘米），然後有一天我的胃下垂突然發作了。

關於我的壞習慣：我不吃早餐（我從小就不喜歡吃早餐），晚餐後就運動，不給食物消化的時間。

我附上了一張我的手掌照片。

I'm not sure why Google Translate will not translate this following sentence correctly in Chinese, so I will write it in English because I feel that it's an important information - since I started taking Zhishi Shenpu Decoction [Atractylodes macrocephala 20g, ginseng 6g (pre-decocted), Poria 12g, Zhishi, Tangerine peel, Pinellia tuber, Magnolia officinalis, Radish seed, Areca catechu 10g each, Amomum villosum, Coptis chinensis, and dried ginger 5g each, roasted malt 15g, roasted liquorice 3g.] I feel a strange numbness around my pelvic area (lower stomach and around penis region). I'm not sure why that's happening.

 

[zhtian215]

我看到中国的中医师，很多在瑞士开诊所，建议到瑞士了解哪间中医诊所的临床疗效比较好。。印象中瑞士伯尔尼（Swiss：Bern）（因为看过郝万山受到当地中医二代的邀请到过那里讲课），
有中医大师的后代在那里行医。？
（因为平时看到视频和新闻，很多临床疗效好的中医教授和中医师，都旅居瑞士行医）
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2012年09月07日
中国驻瑞士大使夫人郭金秋组织了这次中医讲座。 来宾中有各国使节夫人、伯尔尼政府官员夫人及旅瑞华人，大家一起聆听了一场丰富多彩，妙趣横生的中医秋冬养生讲座。

大使夫人请来了在伯尔尼中医界深有造诣的田力医生，她把自己在伯尔尼市中心开设的中医学院(TCM-Institut)的课程搬到了大使宅邸。

 

[六经八纲]

謝謝大家的解答。補充一下，我的胃下垂五年前就開始了。我努力工作，減了很多體重（當時我大約55公斤，身高180厘米），然後有一天我的胃下垂突然發作了。

關於我的壞習慣：我不吃早餐（我從小就不喜歡吃早餐），晚餐後就運動，不給食物消化的時間。

我附上了一張我的手掌照片。

I'm not sure why Google Translate will not translate this following sentence correctly in Chinese, so I will write it in English because I feel that it's an important information - since I started taking Zhishi Shenpu Decoction [Atractylodes macrocephala 20g, ginseng 6g (pre-decocted), Poria 12g, Zhishi, Tangerine peel, Pinellia tuber, Magnolia officinalis, Radish seed, Areca catechu 10g each, Amomum villosum, Coptis chinensis, and dried ginger 5g each, roasted malt 15g, roasted liquorice 3g.] I feel a strange numbness around my pelvic area (lower stomach and around penis region). I'm not sure why that's happening.

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It may be rheumatoid kidney disease, but rheumatism also some kind of liver disease. Liver and kidney have a strong connection.
Do you feel hot in other joints? If the rheumatism is mild, you can only feel it when feel weak. e.g any other sick.
Rheumatism often happen to the occupation which exposure to wind, humidity, cold,and sweat happens.

It is clear, we just need to find out the "root cause" of the cause. some hernia also because the same cause.

 

[欧洲西红柿]

坏习惯对于胃病的影响很大。你自己很明白，也许你首先需要改变。吃一点早餐，晚餐后间隔一段时间才运动。
Bad habits have a great impact on stomach problems. You yourself understand very well that maybe you need to change first. Eat a little breakfast and exercise after dinner at intervals.

 

[欧洲西红柿]

謝謝大家的解答。補充一下，我的胃下垂五年前就開始了。我努力工作，減了很多體重（當時我大約55公斤，身高180厘米），然後有一天我的胃下垂突然發作了。

關於我的壞習慣：我不吃早餐（我從小就不喜歡吃早餐），晚餐後就運動，不給食物消化的時間。

我附上了一張我的手掌照片。

I'm not sure why Google Translate will not translate this following sentence correctly in Chinese, so I will write it in English because I feel that it's an important information - since I started taking Zhishi Shenpu Decoction [Atractylodes macrocephala 20g, ginseng 6g (pre-decocted), Poria 12g, Zhishi, Tangerine peel, Pinellia tuber, Magnolia officinalis, Radish seed, Areca catechu 10g each, Amomum villosum, Coptis chinensis, and dried ginger 5g each, roasted malt 15g, roasted liquorice 3g.] I feel a strange numbness around my pelvic area (lower stomach and around penis region). I'm not sure why that's happening.

你服用的这个药方是谁提供的？你可以向对方反馈的。如果你是自行寻找的，也许这个症状表示药物不适应，应该停止服用。
Who provided this prescription you take? You can give feedback to the other party. If you are looking for it on your own, perhaps this symptom indicates that the drug is not suitable and should be stopped.

 

[欧洲西红柿]

自从我开始服用直石参普汤[白术20克、人参6克（预煎）、茯苓12克、枳实、陈皮、半夏块茎、玉兰、萝卜籽、槟榔儿茶各10克、砂仁、黄连、干姜各5克、烧麦芽15克、烧甘草3克。我感到骨盆区域（下腹部和阴茎区域周围）有一种奇怪的麻木感。我不确定为什么会这样。

 

[欧洲西红柿]

您描述的 骨盆区域麻木感 可能与方剂中某些药物的 行气破滞、化痰通络作用 或 寒热药性对局部气血的影响 有关。
枳实、槟榔等破气药过量
枳实（10g）、槟榔（10g） 行气破滞力强，若患者本身 气虚或气机敏感，可能导致下焦气机暂时紊乱，引发麻木感（气滞或气散不荣筋脉）。
莱菔子（10g） 降气，可能加重下焦气机下陷。

 

[zafirov]

我沒有疝氣，但我做過闌尾切除手術（在患有胃下垂後）。

我不知道我是否有腎臟或肝臟問題，但我肯定有胃下垂。

我在這裡看到了我現在正在服用的草藥的處方。我沒有其他人可以諮詢，但我看到一篇文章說這種草藥對治療胃下垂有效。

我不確定是否應該繼續服用這些草藥，但我的腹股溝區域有一種不舒服的刺痛感。

European tomatoes, thank you for helping me translate. I'll write again in English since GT is having a hard time translating this sentence but I think that it's important - I woke up last night and my whole upper body was VERY painfully stiff. I take magnesium, but I'm not sure why this happened. I think I'll just stop taking the granules for now. On one hand, I'm happy, which means that the granules are working. But probably this recipe is just not the one that I should be taking. Which begs the question, which is the recipe that I should take? The Bu Zhong with added flavors proposed by European tomatoes?

 

[欧洲西红柿]

但我认为这很重要 - 我昨晚醒来，我的整个上半身都非常痛苦地僵硬。我服用镁，但我不确定为什么会这样。我想我暂时停止服用颗粒。一方面，我很高兴，这意味着颗粒正在发挥作用。但可能这个食谱不是我应该服用的。这就引出了一个问题，我应该服用哪个食谱？

 

[六经八纲]

If I'm not mistaken,
The current formula which you are taking is :
白術20g、萊菔(白蘿卜?) 6g、茯苓12g、萊菔子(白蘿卜子?)10g、陳皮10g、川芎10g、苦參10g、檳榔10g、半夏10g.

It won't work. (even without ask how long have you been taken this.) the following symptom may not relate, at least no a impovement to my my opinion.

In order to avoid misunderstand, you can just type in english. or send photo of the herbal formula sheet.
I just mean hernia appears at this condition, not saying you are suffering it.

Optimism is good, but herbal granules are relatively expensive at present. (Although it can save a certain amount of delivery charges). Herbal treatment will definitely work, just need to find out the match formula for a individual. which is why it is still popular in China.
Real Traditional China medical are not that scary. Just take more time to prepare.

When you wake up last night, was the pain in joint or muscle? Does the painful part look different from others, hot? What is the specific time when it happened.
If you can tell or DM your career and how it was caused, (even by guess). we can make a herbal formula a better match.

Been busy, Sorry for the late response.

 

[zafirov]

Granules are a bit expensive, yes, but the price is not an issue at the moment. I buy the granules from a shop in the capital that sells TCM herbs. There isn't any other shop in my country that sells TCM herbs, I think, so I have to use them.

When I woke up very painfully stiff, I think the majority of the pain was in the joints. I mean, my entire upper body was painfully stiff, but thinking back, I can say that the joints were the issue. If I don't take magnesium, I wake up almost every night with stiff joints/muscles. I didn't have this issue before the gastroptosis.

I used to work as a pizza cook. 12-hour shifts, irregular eating, I was constantly bent over the table making pizzas, eating while working, lifting heavy bags with a full stomach. And one day it just happened. I had lost a lot of weight previously; I was 55 kg, I think? And I'm 180 cm tall. And one day it just happened. A barium swallow has confirmed that I have gastroptosis.

Thank you for taking the time to reply. It is appreciated!